Lacking Natural Simplicity (Posts about flim)https://tkurtbond.github.io/categories/flim.atom2024-01-23T18:49:42ZT. Kurt BondNikolaWanderlust, APEL, FLIM, and SEMI developmenthttps://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/2009-09-02T09:01:26-05:002009-09-02T09:01:26-05:00T. Kurt Bond<p>Someone once said something along the lines that to those in the
Western world who don't speak Japanese there is an alternate
universe of FOSS <a class="footnote-reference brackets" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#foss" id="footnote-reference-1" role="doc-noteref"><span class="fn-bracket">[</span>1<span class="fn-bracket">]</span></a> development in Japan <a class="footnote-reference brackets" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#china" id="footnote-reference-2" role="doc-noteref"><span class="fn-bracket">[</span>2<span class="fn-bracket">]</span></a>, and every so
often things from that universe just appear in the Western FOSS
universe as mysterious foreign objects. Ruby seems to have made a
solid connection between the universes, but many others are less
approachable.</p>
<p>Wanderlust development and the development of the emacs packages that
it depends on (APEL, FLIM, and SEMI) feel like that to me. Some of
them have web pages, but they're usually quite out of date. It can be
difficult find to their CVS repositories, and even more difficult to find
the browse-able web interfaces to their CVS repositories. Every time
I want to look at the code, I have to figure this all out again, hence
this post.</p>
<p>There was a <a class="reference external" href="http://lists.airs.net/wl-en/archive/200905/msg00099.html">post</a> on the Wanderlust English-language mailing list from
Katsumi Yamaoka <<a class="reference external" href="mailto:yamaoka@jpl.org">yamaoka@jpl.org</a>> on Wednesday, 27 May 2009 that gave
the location of the APEL, FLIM, and SEMI cvs repositories, and
mentioned that development in the FLIM and SEMI repositories was
taking place under the flim_1_14 and semi_1_14 branches, respectively.
The post also said that the place for discussion about APEL is the
APEL mailing lists:</p>
<blockquote>
<div class="line-block">
<div class="line"><a class="reference external" href="mailto:apel-en@m17n.org">apel-en@m17n.org</a></div>
<div class="line"><a class="reference external" href="mailto:apel-ja@m17n.org">apel-ja@m17n.org</a></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>To subscribe, send an empty e-mail to <a class="reference external" href="mailto:apel-en-ctl@m17n.org">apel-en-ctl@m17n.org</a> and/or
<a class="reference external" href="mailto:apel-ja-ctl@m17n.org">apel-ja-ctl@m17n.org</a>.</p>
<p>The place to discuss FLIM and SEMI is the EMACS-MIME mailing
list:</p>
<blockquote>
<div class="line-block">
<div class="line"><a class="reference external" href="mailto:emacs-mime-en@m17n.org">emacs-mime-en@m17n.org</a></div>
<div class="line"><a class="reference external" href="mailto:emacs-mime-ja@m17n.org">emacs-mime-ja@m17n.org</a></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>To subscribe, send an e-mail containing “subscribe YOUR NAME” in its
contents to <a class="reference external" href="mailto:emacs-mime-en-ctl@m17n.org">emacs-mime-en-ctl@m17n.org</a> and/or
<a class="reference external" href="mailto:emacs-mime-ja-ctl@m17n.org">emacs-mime-ja-ctl@m17n.org</a>.</p>
<p>So, here are the CVS commands I just used to check the various
packages out:</p>
<div class="code"><pre class="code bash"><a id="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-1" name="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-1" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-1"></a>cvs<span class="w"> </span>-d<span class="w"> </span>:pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root<span class="w"> </span>checkout<span class="w"> </span>wanderlust
<a id="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-2" name="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-2" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-2"></a>cvs<span class="w"> </span>-z9<span class="w"> </span>-d<span class="w"> </span>:pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root<span class="w"> </span>checkout<span class="w"> </span>apel
<a id="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-3" name="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-3" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-3"></a>cvs<span class="w"> </span>-z9<span class="w"> </span>-d<span class="w"> </span>:pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root<span class="w"> </span>checkout<span class="w"> </span>-r<span class="w"> </span>flim-1_14<span class="w"> </span>flim
<a id="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-4" name="rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-4" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#rest_code_98e09b53b8434c37923152fdbd2ef677-4"></a>cvs<span class="w"> </span>-z9<span class="w"> </span>-d<span class="w"> </span>:pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root<span class="w"> </span>checkout<span class="w"> </span>-r<span class="w"> </span>semi-1_14<span class="w"> </span>semi
</pre></div>
<p>Here are the browse-able CVS web interfaces:</p>
<ul class="simple">
<li><p><a class="reference external" href="http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/wanderlust/">http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/wanderlust/</a></p></li>
<li><p><a class="reference external" href="http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/apel/">http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/apel/</a></p></li>
<li><p><a class="reference external" href="http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/flim/">http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/flim/</a></p></li>
<li><p><a class="reference external" href="http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/semi/">http://cvs.m17n.org/viewcvs/root/semi/</a></p></li>
</ul>
<aside class="footnote-list brackets">
<aside class="footnote brackets" id="foss" role="doc-footnote">
<span class="label"><span class="fn-bracket">[</span><a role="doc-backlink" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#footnote-reference-1">1</a><span class="fn-bracket">]</span></span>
<p><strong>F</strong>ree or <strong>O</strong>pen <strong>S</strong>ource <strong>S</strong>oftware.</p>
</aside>
<aside class="footnote brackets" id="china" role="doc-footnote">
<span class="label"><span class="fn-bracket">[</span><a role="doc-backlink" href="https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2009/09/02/wanderlust-apel-semi-and-flim-development/#footnote-reference-2">2</a><span class="fn-bracket">]</span></span>
<p>I wonder if there is a Chinese alternate universe of FOSS,
too?</p>
</aside>
</aside>